MaF54 - Is it real a sex scandal?
I don't know, but if someone was Iming with MaF54 and I did not know who it was I would not respond. What Congressman Foley did was wrong, so far, not legally but morally and ethically. He used his position of trust and power to gain information about pages and then pursued to engage in lewd communication after.
The interesting thing is the media makes out to a sex scandal which it is not. The sex scandal with pages happened back in 1983. Congressman Gary Studds had sex with a 17 year old page, a teenager that the trusted him and had sex with. I don't know working for someone in power and maybe feeling compelled to have sex might be consider sexual harassment.
However, what happen to Studds, nothing, but a censure. There were no calls for Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill to step down not by the media nor his constituents. Interesting how about six year later another sexual scandal emerges from a Massachusetts Congressman, but again only censure and not calls for dismissal or resignation.
Was there a cover up I don't know? If the Republican's forced Foley to resign based on the initial Im's, Republicans would have been accused of anti-gay. When the more lurid Im's came to light, Foley was forced to resign. I never did see that happen when I was a kid growing up to Massachusetts to the two Congressman caught in a real sex scandal.
The other backlash now is the media is trying to portray a putsch is going on in the Republican ranks to get all gays out by circulating a document with names of Republican gays. Some in the America will believe this is true, however, for those that don't know the list was created by ultra-liberal Democrats that wanted to out all Republican gays back during the 2004 election. Now, Democrats see an opportunity and are sending out this list to all conservative groups saying it is Republicans. How stupid are they? Do they not realizet people can trace the meta -data and where the e-mails originate, but you will not hear this through the media.
The Republicans are not perfect, but when they do something wrong it is widely disseminated. When Democrats do something wrong, their sympathizers and apologist in the media cover it up, how else do you explain why Sen. Reid's 700,000 land deal is not being investigated, especially when his son (who is running for election) might be involved.
I HATE MASS MEDIA, except the Wall Street Journal.
posted by DCMASSHOLE @ 9:23 AM
2 Comments:
It seems like you only got half the story with the 1983 sex scandal. First off, Studds wasn't the only lothario nailed in that particularl bust. Dan Crane (R-Ill) was also caught in a sexual relationship. The House ethics committee suggested a reprimand, but it was a Republican, Newt Gingrich, who demanded harsher measures. Ultimately, the two congressmen got off with censure, but it's worth noting that these were the first such reprimands (for sexual misconduct) in congressional history.
While we're on the topic, it's worth noting that Crane's sexual misconduct was a relatively recent action, having taken place in 1980. The House ethics committe had to dig back ten years, to 1973, to find Studds' story. It's also worth noting that Studds' sexual partner was over the age of consent.
Crankster,
My point was the hypcorisy of the Democrats. Yes, Studds actions were ten years prior, but he did use alcohol to get the person drunk. A person that is intoxicated is not able to give consent. If Studds did have sex without the pages lucid consent then what he did would be called rape along with sodomy which was a crime at that time.
I would have to check the age of consent for the District back in 1973, but as I stated my point is hypcorisy of the Democrats who were in control in the 1970's to the 1980's. Were was the house leadership to protect pages.
I personally believe if pages are over the age of consent they are responsible for their own actions, especially over the internet. Those pages engage in IM's with a person they first did not know and continued once identifying who it was. I think the story was blown way out of proportion.
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